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Post by Verite on Fri May 29, 2009 7:03 pm


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Post by Verite on Fri May 29, 2009 7:04 pm

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Post by Verite on Fri May 29, 2009 7:05 pm


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Post by Verite on Fri May 29, 2009 7:09 pm

Just to sidetrack for a second...


Are these songs inspired by the Holy Spirit?


We should be different from the World.


Light is light, darkness is darkness.


This is purely COMPROMISE.

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Post by Je suis on Fri May 29, 2009 9:15 pm

Good job Verite for pointing these out to us. I certainly think that those bands that are taking worldy inputs to their music need to rethink. The compa that Claude Aurelien use to build his music, that's the compas we don't need in the gospel. We also don't need the voice of little john in that way in gospel music. That's what you call worldly influence. This I agree with you. That's a different konpa.

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Post by Verite on Sat May 30, 2009 3:48 am

Thanks Je Suis, That's all we're trying to point out here, we need to uphold our standards and set ourselves apart from the world.

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Post by mwenpavoanyen on Sat May 30, 2009 8:42 am

Jije ou pa jije

Matthieu 7.1

Ne jugez point, afin que vous ne soyez point jugés. Car on vous jugera du jugement dont vous jugez, et l’on vous mesurera avec la mesure dont vous mesurez. Pourquoi vois-tu la paille qui est dans l’œil de ton frère, et n’aperçois-tu pas la poutre qui est dans ton œil ?

Ou comment peux-tu dire à ton frère: Laisse-moi ôter une paille de ton œil, toi qui as une poutre dans le tien ?

Hypocrite, ôte premièrement la poutre de ton œil, et alors tu verras comment ôter la paille de l’œil de ton frère.

1 Corinthiens 5.11/13


Maintenant, ce que je vous ai écrit, c’est de ne pas avoir des relations avec quelqu’un qui, se nommant frère, est impudique, ou cupide, ou idolâtre, ou outrageux, ou ivrogne, ou ravisseur, de ne pas même manger avec un tel homme.
Qu’ai-je, en effet, à juger ceux du dehors? N’est-ce pas ceux du dedans que vous avez à juger?
Pour ceux du dehors, Dieu les juge. Ôtez le méchant du milieu de vous.

Eske gen yon kontradiksyon ant pawol Jezi Kri and ou bien anseyman Apot Paul sou sa ki konsene jijman.?

Avan tout nou dwe eseye we ki sa la Bib ki se pawol Bondje di sou sujè sa

Li gen plizyè sinifikasyon pou mo "JIJMAN"

Jije avek sans pou distenge. Sa vle di pou nou fe diferans ant seri de bagay ou seri moun

Hébreux 5:14 Mais la nourriture solide est pour les hommes faits, pour ceux dont le jugement est exercé par l’usage à discerner ce qui est bien et ce qui est mal.

Jije avek sans pou ou bay apresiasyon ou a yon bagay ou a kek moun ou sou gravite yon fot. yo jije devan tribinal... yon moun ki innocent ou ki koupab sou gravite yon bagay ki pase

Matthieu 16:27 Car le Fils de l’homme doit venir dans la gloire de son Père, avec ses anges; et alors il rendra à chacun selon ses œuvres.

2 Corinthiens 5:10 Car il nous faut tous comparaître devant le tribunal de Christ, afin que chacun reçoive selon le bien ou le mal qu’il aura fait, étant dans son corps.

Jije nan sans Kondane

Jean 3:18 Celui qui croit en lui n’est point jugé; mais celui qui ne croit pas est déjà jugé, parce qu’il n’a pas cru au nom du Fils unique de Dieu.

Farizyen yo te pran yon fanm pou yo al touye paske yo te bare li lan adiltè, men Jezi te retire jijman sa e li te lage fanm lan.

Jezi bay nou entriksyon ki presiz si tout fwa nou ap reprimande yon fre nou si li gen yon movèz konpòtman nan levanjil lan.

Mathieu 18.15/18 Si ton frère a péché, va et reprends-le entre toi et lui seul. S’il t’écoute, tu as gagné ton frère. Mais, s’il ne t’écoute pas, prends avec toi une ou deux personnes, afin que toute l’affaire se règle sur la déclaration de deux ou de trois témoins. S’il refuse de les écouter, dis-le à l’Église; et s’il refuse aussi d’écouter l’Église, qu’il soit pour toi comme un païen et un publicain. Je vous le dis en vérité, tout ce que vous lierez sur la terre sera lié dans le ciel, et tout ce que vous délierez sur la terre sera délié dans le ciel.

La nou kap we se yon bagay ki fet nan fratènite, et ki fèt tou avek anpil sekrè, mizerikòd e Dousè, e san nou pap bliye priyè (1 Jean 5.16).
Se yon bagay ke nou temwen de li.

Seyè met ki gen tout Pouvwa ban nou yon règ an ò

Ne pas jugez pas selon l’apparence, mais jugez selon la justice. Jean 7:24

Ne devais-tu pas aussi avoir pitié de ton compagnon, comme j’ai eu pitié de toi? Matthieu 18:33

Men yon lot vèsè you ki kap ede nou konprann ki sentiment nou dwe genyen le nou we yon lot frè ki fè sa ki mal

Galates 6:1 Frères, si un homme vient à être surpris en quelque faute, vous qui êtes spirituels, redressez-le avec un esprit de douceur. Prends garde à toi-même, de peur que tu ne sois aussi tenté.

Mwne swete ke Bondje kap ede nou trouve limyè lan pawol li e ban nou Bon konprann tou pou nou juje fason la Bib la mande men pa facon ke nou panse ou nou tire de yon sel vese lan Bib lan. Mande Bondje le nou li yon vèsè pou li ede nou konprann sens li menm jan tou mwne va fe avan menm mwne ekri nou.

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Post by mwenpavoanyen on Sat May 30, 2009 9:32 am

VERITE mon frere Kretyen pa pale lan voye monte men fok li kap rale Bib Bondje ba li an pou li demontre tout sa li ap di, paske pa gen anyen ki pa lan Bib lan. Encore toutes les bonnes choses sont inspirer de Dieu, e Bondje sevi ak moun li vle pou fe pase mesaj li.

Nan liv Osee ou men sa letenel te di li:

La première fois que l'Éternel adressa la parole à Osée, l'Éternel dit
à Osée: Va, prends une femme prostituée... li te fe li konsa paske li te gen yon travay special ak pep li an

mwne swete ou lire tout liv sa, men an realite kisa La Bible di sou yon fanm ki prostitué li defann yon nonm ki kretyen ale lakay femme sa.

Bondje selman mwne kwe le Bondje vle fe travay li, li servi ak moun ki pa konnen non li pou li fe li pase e li prend sa yo ki pi ba.

mwne swete ke nou pa gade sou konesans nou pou nou kap fe travay Bondje an ou pou nou bay pawol lan, paske menm sa tout se Bondje ki bay ou li, Konesans pou ou aprann lan yon universite. Men pa bliye Bondje jwazi moun li vle pou fe travay li etre un grand theologien, pas sunifi nullement ke se yon moun ki chwazi pou fe travay Bondje an. paske Jezi te pran moun tout patou pou bay pawol li. youn lan moun ki inspire de Dieu ke nou kap aprann pa li menm la pawol de Dieu jodi an sete avan yon moun ki tap peche pwason, se pat yon moun ki te lan conseye economique, spirituel Roi li te ye.

Bondje beni ou Mon fre e ke nou fe plis effort pou nou konprann pawol kris lan pou nou pa kite gran konesans trouble nou, paske se Bondje ki bay Bon konprann

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Post by Toma Red on Sat May 30, 2009 10:27 am

A bon!!!!!!!!!!! Min VERITE a, li pa tap dòmi, li te nan LABORATOIRE ap COOK" Lol. Big difference on presenting your point on the KONPA LEVANJIL SAGA this time, BIG-UPS to you VERITE. That's the real problem with GOSPEL MUSIC: Whats accepted and whats not. -KOMPA IS NOT THE PROBLEM-

"Worldy influences into our Gospel music is NOT at all fulfilling" Example: "SE PA POU DAT, Alain Cave's melody used to incorporate God's written word. Hearing the music playing at Clubs, Parties wherever already created an image of that particular melody's belonging. Even though we know this beautiful thing called "MUSIC" is from GOD, but don't forget that Satan is a CopyCat and X-Chief musician. Which means "ATIS KRETIEN YO" need to pray and ask God for some good sweet MELODIES also, specially our Culture. LEMOND yo pa min priye epi yo jwen min talent mizik la, e yo fè-l trè byen ak princip e disiplin-n.

"ATIS YO PRAN TALENT BONDYE BAN NOU-AN SERYE, pa KOPYE TIN TIN".

WE have what the WORLD NEEDS, the WORLD don't have what we NEED! Remember That.


Lè-m Wè-m Kwè
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Post by Humble Servant. on Sat May 30, 2009 2:32 pm

Toma,

You have spoken GOLD! Especially your last quote and last sentence.

God is way too Big (too AWESOME) for leftovers- MY GOD DISERVES BETTER... I said it before and I will say it again.

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Post by Humble Servant. on Sat May 30, 2009 3:07 pm

tibobdenazareth wrote:
Jesus Himself died because of the ignorance of those in the Church. As we can see here on this site, the real problem of the Gospel (and Gospel Music) is those in the church.


REDUNDANT WRITTING OF MY PREVIOUS STATEMENT.


tibobdenazareth wrote:During the 4+ years of my music ministry, more than 2,000 souls have come to Christ in Haiti alone and that during my "musical crusades"; let alone those who come to Christ without my knowing!!! All of that because GOD IS WITH ME AND APPROVES MY MINISTRY.

Ke Bondye beni ministe'w la! Although, (try not to apply this personally) humans has the tendency to act on emotions( seen it time and time again)...I pray that these souls were truly saved and that your ministry is keeping in touch with the pro or regress of the Christian life battle everyday.

tibobdenazareth wrote:I feel more useful to heaven than those who have been saved before me but are looking for what's wrong in other people's ministries because they don't have one of their own.

As a Christian what example will I be sending to those that look up to me by supporting an act or actions rather that screams unsavory to my God and fellow Christians.

tibobdenazareth wrote:Yo se w pakèt bann ipokrit, yon bann tonbo blanchi!

Again repeat from my previous writting.

Mwen pa juje, mwen ekzote la Bib ban otorizasyon pou'm fe sa.

Si map fe yon travay pou Kris epi nanm Kretyen including fellow band members don't feel the presence of God in it... I'd take a few steps back, and think "wait a minute, if I'm pushing more people to appreciate the sounds and mannerisms (e.g : dancing) of the unChristian world, perhaps I'm not doing such a Holy job as I thought I was!" Mwen tap priye Bondye, mande'l gidans pou'm ka VREMAN SOUVE NANM, NOT JUST DOING SO IN HEAD OR BASED ON MY PRECEPTION.


I WILL NOT BE MOVED!
ON CHRIST THE SOLID ROCK I STAND
ALL OTHER GROUNDS IN SAND WILL SINK
I WILL NOT BE MOVED!

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Post by Humble Servant. on Sat May 30, 2009 3:34 pm

VERITE,

Tight work with the A/V proofs!

Adyeee woooo. "Coupe- Cloure, Le roi"- hmmmm.

kanaval levanjil? sa vle di mo "Kwazad/ revey" yo vinn two "TET MARE" pa vre?

WE MUST...STAND OUT!!! STAND FOR WHAT WE BELEIVE IN, EVEN IF WE'RE THE ONLY ONES STANDING. Which is EXACTLY what Christ did.

Avek konpasyon,

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Post by Jn Michel on Sat May 30, 2009 3:40 pm

Humble Ti Bob says that they came to Christ now wether they take Christ is their personal business. You are doing a little better though than your previous posts. At first you sounded like you was judging the Haitian Gospel Music Industry. There is a way to exhort people without sending them to hell. May God bless you and lead you.

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Post by fullgospel on Sat May 30, 2009 3:50 pm

Adje Humble Servant. Sa ou pa konnen pi gran pasew. Si ou te konnen kote mo kwazad la soti e kisal ye ou pa tap menm repetel menm. Nou tout se pecheur. Chak jou mwen menm avew nap peche. Gen peche nou fe nou konnen e gen peche nou fe nou pa konnen. Nou younn dwe siporte lot se sa selman nou ka fe paske tan an move e kontra laterre pral fini. Nou pa ka ap pouse younn lot around. Si ou we yon frere oubyen yon soeur fe yon bagay ki mal dil li pa bon e moutrel koman poul fel pou next time li ka fel byen. Deyor a tres move. Satan vle poul pran tout sa nou genyen. Li ka fe preske tout sal vle men kanta pou nanm nou an li pa ka pranl tout tan nou pa balil.

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Post by Humble Servant. on Sat May 30, 2009 4:16 pm

My points and views remain the very same, how you choose interpret them is totally up to you.


PS: "le Bege ya konte 99 ti mouton, Li tounen al cheche ti grenn ki pedu ya, pou okinn pa ret deye oubyen pedu". I pray you understand. 10 mil moun ka vinn aksepte Kris, men konbyen ki konveti le lan demen? Hype!

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Post by Humble Servant. on Sat May 30, 2009 4:30 pm

I hear and understand you FullGospel,

But rest assured that "mwen pa pale sa'm pa konnen".

Cert, one word can hold many definitions. Well, in my case the defs are simple really:

Thesaurus: crusade ergo kwazad.
An organized effort to accomplish a purpose: campaign, drive, movement, push.
A goal or set of interests served with dedication: cause.

I implemented "krazad" in the above manner. My sincere apologies if I stroke a wrong implication to you.

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Post by fullgospel on Sat May 30, 2009 5:11 pm

Kom ou di konpa soti nan Nemours Jn Batiste. Kote kwazad la soti?

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Post by Humble Servant. on Sat May 30, 2009 11:08 pm

Mwen di ???? ou sur????

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